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Does anyone know what the Wagner piece Lindsey keeps talking about is?

no idea, i was asking myself the same. We'll have to check the terrence Malickmovie.

Well, I guess I found it: "Vorspiel" aus "Das Rheingold"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFkyAD9gS6g

and in the end of the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhj4b5CzyhU

interesting, to say the least.

What's fascinating, is that Werner Herzog used the same piece in the ending of his Wings of Hope -movie (2000) , so that was 8 years earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szH3vaPzUXQ

LIVE, 1950.

no movie attached, so you can concentrate on the music.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0LzQGBC7A

Herzog even used it in his 1979-classic Nosferatu! Starts at 2.22 minutes after this clip begins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkAI9kALWss

I suppose I'm out of the loop, which is not much of a surprise. But what has Lindsey been saying about this, and in what context?

The prelude to "Das Rheingold" is a beautiful bit of music and, of course, the opening salvo of one of the most incredible musical accomplishments... well, ever. Is Lindsey a Ring fan?

Does he want to come with me to one of the cycles being performed at the Met in New York next spring?

In some interviews lately, Lindsey's been talking about Wagner in reference to Time Precious Time. This is from the AntiMusic.com review.



antiMusic: Your guitar playing is just as stunning as it always has been. Do you spend a lot of time working out patterns and riffs or does it all just fall out on command?

Lindsey: Well, no. I believe it's not what you've got, it's what you do with what you've got. I don't sit around and practice. I'm self-taught. I don't read music. I'm sort of this refined primitive I guess you could say. It's all intuitive. It's all about how you think…it's all about the idea. It's not about the knowledge. I think imagination tends to be more important, at least in my case, than the knowledge. It's about thinking about; okay I have this idea…

I'll give you an example: there's a song on there called "Time Precious Time", which is the second song on there. It's just a guitar piece with this sort of arpeggio that goes up and down the neck. And the idea came from watching Terrence Malick's The New World where he uses, many places in the movie…it's a long movie…but he keeps using this sort of atypical Wagner piece which is this kind of liquid swirling up. It's an orchestra but it's all kind of impressionistic swirling up and up and up and back down again and up and up and up and back down.

This is from the recent Guitar World interview.


GW: Your newest release, "Gift Of Screws" features the fingerpicking tour de force "Time Precious Time". What inspired you to create the song's harplike, rolling picking pattern ?

LB: The impetus for the song itself came from a piece by Wagner. I was watching Terrence Malick's film "The New World", and there was a piece of music used over and over in the soundtrack that was, in terms of my knowledge of Wagner, atypical of his style. It was a beautiful orchestral piece, with swirling strings building up in an impressionistic way and then moving back down and up again - very liquid, very much like a waterfall. I decided to try, somehow, to state that with a guitar piece, and that's where "Time Precious Time" came from. It was a guitar piece before it was a song, which tends to happen some of the time.

Thanks for the quotes!

"Liquid swirling up" sounds about right; Lindsey's a smart guy. The music is supposed to represent the eternal flow of the Rhine.